Republicans using DNA to oust the monarchs seems unlikely, as it just invites a separate metric to choosing a monarch. Just the same that non-NPE heirs often find they have really bad luck when they are ill-suited to rule or their power structure otherwise has more confidence in someone a little lower in the line. Bastards are not ill-suited for rule because they are bastards, but because they are not able to consolidate power from the Queen when that power doesn't matter, it's unsurprising that suddenly their bastardy doesn't matter either. NPEs don't really challenge that since those children are de facto adopted anyways. They are the family with the largest amount of power by wealth and influence, and they groom their children as heirs to maintain that power from birth. The propaganda around monarchies is that there is something special in the blood, that they are divinely chosen to rule, but the reality of monarchy is more pragmatic. It's a small gesture but seriously, respect peoples' time & effort in helping you out. It's perfectly OK to ask for any info if you're looking for fresh leads, but you can help people to focus their efforts & look at the correct sources if you are more specific. Be clear & specific about what info you want help finding.Don't make people waste their time by duplicating work. Include as much known information as you can.This advice will get you the best response from your research requests. *Click on the thread titles to see the history Related Subs Moderators may, at their discretion, remove posts that they consider harmful to the community.We don't want to discourage people from participating. Please use the downvote button sparingly to signify that a post or a comment is spam or contains incorrect information, not just because you disagree with it.Please do respond to those who offer their time to help you, even if just to say thanks.Everyone needs to see links without obfuscation. Fire & forget isn't polite, and will be considered spam. Posting your own site or work is OK in moderation, but please contribute to the community too.

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r/Genealogy Researchers Genealogy Resources If you are looking for specific help on a specific region, this post has a list of people willing to help with searches and lookups regarding certain areas. 19th century genealogists mistakenly conflated Thomas Gardiner with Stephen Gardiner, bishop of Winchester.A subreddit about all things genealogy. After her husband's death she married William Sybson.

1450), having by him: Thomas Gardiner, Prior of Tynemouth and four daughters, Philippa, Margaret, Beatrice and Anne. 1485), wife of a skinner, William Gardiner, of London (born c. They were fourth-generation ancestors to Oliver Cromwell, meaning Oliver Cromwell was a descendant of the Welsh Royal Family, via Joan Tudor's grandfather, Owen Tudor. 1483, an older sister of Tudor statesman Thomas Cromwell, 1st Earl of Essex. Morgan Williams married at Putney Church in 1499, Norwell, Nottinghamshire, to Catherine or Katherine Cromwell, born Putney, London, c. Sir John Williams was the father of John Williams, 1st Baron Williams of Thame, who was the father of Isabel Williams who married Sir Richard Wenman and is thereby ancestor of the Earls of Leicester (7th Creation). It is believed that Joan died young during the childbirth of her twin sons. 1469), wife of William ap Yevan (son of Yevan Williams and Margaret Kemoys), and mother of twins Sir John Williams and Morgan Williams (born Llanishen, Glamorganshire, Wales, 1469). Jasper reportedly had at least one, but possibly two, illegitimate daughters by Mevanvy Verch Daffydd (1436-1485): Data of Wikipedia isn't always correct, but the following should be considered:

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